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  • 1:38PM - May 17, 2008RE: FW lie angles

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    chrisfx11, let me know what you find out when you do the lie angle tests on the Trouble-Out’s.

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  • 6:37PM - May 16, 2008RE: FW lie angles

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    Sorry, I went through the general discussions for a couple days, and must have overlooked it as well as the search function. I did hit an already assembled TO fw at Golf Galaxy, but have not had a chance to put tape on the sole to check if the lie angle suits my swing.

    As mentioned, I also like to play my fw’s a little shorter than what’s ‘standard’ nowadays, so hopefully, they’ll still work for me. If I use steel, the 5w will probably be around 41-41.5”.

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  • 6:20PM - May 16, 2008RE: FW lie angles

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    chrisfx811, I have ansered this before. I simply typed in “Trouble-Out Lie Angles” in the search box and my response came up. Here it is. By the way the search engine on this site is terrific.

    Posted by Ralph Maltby

    Malone44, the Trouble-Out club went through a lot of testing and with quite a few people and even a few touring pros. There are two very key attributes to this club that make it work, the first is the extremely low center of gravity and the second is the unique sole design with the bounce and runners. During testing and from both extremes of hitting off hardpan to extracting the ball from substantial rough I learned the two runners on the sole worked the best when they were in the correct lie position. Well, most golfers who use the more normal modern upright lie angles could not get the head into the best lie position at impact. It would always come through with the toe up even after the bowing down of the head from centrifugal force. Take the 3 metal as an example; the recommended length for graphite is 43” and the lie angle is specified at 55 degrees. Actually, 15 years ago persimmon drivers were made standard with 55 degrees lie and they also had a standard length of 43”. So, I decided to make this model with a lie angle that would have a better chance of coming through impact correctly. Now that there are more and more bending machines on the market that can bend hybrids and fairway metals, you will see more and more lie angle changes to fit golfers better. You really want your fairway metals and hybrids to have the correct lie for you because when the lie angle is correct, the vertical center of gravity can be lower to the ball coming into impact. A toe up position at impact can raise the vertical center of gravity. Here’s the general hybrid conversion chart for comparing like irons and fairway metals. There are a number of factors that can mess this up so again use it as a general starting point. 20 degree hybrid = 5 fairway metal or 2 / 3 iron 22 degree hybrid = 7 fairway metal or 3 / 4 iron 24 degree hybrid = 9 fairway metal or a 4 / 5 iron This is my standard chart and when the lofts go higher, you actually need to hit those for distance and fill out the distance chart to be sure they fit where you want them to in distance. Actually, you always need to hit all lofts to make sure they fit where you want.

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  • 2:38PM - May 16, 2008RE: FW lie angles

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    This is a good question as I also require more upright lie angles in my irons, and I have a TO 3-Wood. I haven’t hit the 3-Wood much yet as I want to get comfortable with it first. I look forward to Ralph’s response.

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  • 10:37PM - May 14, 2008FW lie angles

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    I’m getting ready to purchase a 5w from Golfworks, an dwhile I really want to try the Trouble out fairways, I notice that the lie angles listed in the catalog for these is considerably flatter than others, and quite flatter than the drivers as well.

    Is there a specific reason for this? Specifically, the 17* 5w is listed @ 56, whereas most drivers are 58-59, and most 5w’s are 58-59. I prefer to play steel, which would mean slightly shorter as well, so these lie angles seem quite flat, especially considering I go 1-2 upright on my irons. Does this mean the TO’s are just not for me?

    By contrast, the TO hybrids, are right in line with their corresponding iron replacements.

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