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Lie/lenght for wife

  • 12:10PM - May 19, 2008RE: Lie/lenght for wife

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    gm9, watch my grip size video on the home page of this site and use the procedure shown to fit her to grip size. Men’s or ladies does not matter, only the correct fit for her is important.

    I assume from the length comment that she is currently playing with a 38” #5 iron. Even though she is taller, this most likely too long a length for her. When she gets to the proper length (37 1/4”), you will need to check the lie angles on her irons and adjust them.

    Yes, as clubs are shortened the shaft flex gets stiffer. a 3/4” shortening of the shaft usually will result in 1/2 flex stffer. Now, I am in between on my recommendation for the shaft flex. I don’t think you can go wrong with the “A” flex, but if the “R” ends up too stiff for her it will most likely hurt her game. Once again, a guess on my part. Just keep working toward a good fit for her and be sure to read up on the importance of the lie angles of the irons and wedges.

  • 12:46PM - May 16, 2008Thanks

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    Thanks for the quick response and I understand that any info here would be an educated guess. I am posting the question here mainly because we are in rural area and there isn’t anything close. There is a a Golf Galaxy about 150 miles away. Just trying to get as good a fit as possible by researching on the web. Maybe we can make a trip someplace for a proper fitting. She plays in a weekly golf league plus some weekends so she does get quite a few rounds in a year.

    She hits the ball pretty well and I’m pretty sure she will carry 180-190 with the driver. Her hands are relatively large (7 7/8” from wrist to longest finger, 3 1/2” longest finger – another internet measurement) so would women’s grips still be appropriate?

    If we shorten the shafts (by approximately 3/4” according to the spec you posted), doesn’t that also increase the flex? If we’re going to shorten shafts, would it be more appropriate to go with the softer flex (A) initially which would then stiffen up as the shafts are shortened?

  • 6:01PM - May 15, 2008RE: Lie/lenght for wife

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    gm9, first of all, the wrist to floor measurement does not tell the clubfitter anything and is one of the all time perpetual myths of golf. It is used because it is convenient, impressive and easy to do for the uninformed clubfitters out there. The finger tip to floor or wrist to floor measurement simply allows them look on a chart to conveniently determine e the club length.

    Club length is properly fitted by hitting balls with the same exact club made up in a few different lengths. You can fit a driver this way or your irons. The procedure is to use impact decals on the face of the club and determine which club length produces the best pattern for close or on center ball hits. So, you see that club length is a function of a player’s ability and not their wrist to floor measurement.

    You are correct in that she is in between “A” and “R” flex. When this occurs, you need to think of an “A” flex shaft that has a stiffer tip section or an “R” flex shaft that has a weaker shaft tip section in an ideal world. If she can carry the ball with a driver 180 to 190 yards, go with the “R” flex for sure. But, if she plays less than 10 rounds a year, go with the “A” flex to help her out with hitting balls more solidly on off center hits. Less than 10 rounds a year is not enough to improve one’s game unless they hit quite a few balls on the driving range, practice putting a lot and also practicing chipping, pitching and sand shots.

    So, here is what you do; assuming my above comments fit your wife’s situation. Buy the X-20’s with the graphite shafts in “R” flex. Make sure the #5 iron is no longer than 37 ¼”. Note here; make sure her driver is no longer than 43”. Be sure you have women’s grips on them and they are properly fit to her for size. The swingweight should be between C-4 and C-7. If less than C-4 the clubs are suspect at the #5 iron maximum length I gave you (37 ¼”). Also, be sure she is fit properly for lie angle by hitting on a lie angle board. I am hoping that you have a Golf Galaxy store somewhere near you or a reputable clubfitter in your area that does not use finger tip to floor measurements. If there is a Golf Galaxy store you can go to, print out a copy of this response and take it with you. They will fit her properly and check all these specifications.

    Gm9, I am always at a disadvantage in these recommendations because I have not seen your wife swing and do not have the statistics from a launch monitor hitting session. I have done this enough to know my recommendations are close and a good starting point. Women swing differently from men and the specifications I have outlined above should definitely be adhered to. The goal is to get her to enjoy golf more and continually score better from year to year.

  • 12:41PM - May 15, 2008Lie/lenght for wife

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    Looking for some help on lie/length for my wife. She is 5’8” tall with wrist to floor of 33”. From 150 yards she hits 5 iron. Currently plays a mens std lie/length, steel shaft regular (that was available/cheap when she was starting to play). Seems she is top of A (senior) flex or bottom or regular flex. Most places suggest either std length and 1 degree flat or 1/2” short and standard lie. If go short route doesn’t that increase flex and should go with A flex? Or standard length and 1 degree flat but which flex? Looking a graphite shafts and I think they are sized slightly longer than steel so does that change the decision? If it matters, looking at getting Callaway X-20.

    Thanks for any help.

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