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hybyrd vs. long iron

  • 3:41PM - Aug 4, 2008RE: hybyrd vs. long iron

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    Murv, a lot of tour players do this. It forces the golfer to only use the head for alignment vs. using the grip engravings which can vary from club to club. It is a good system to use.

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  • 2:02PM - Aug 4, 2008Grip Alignment

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    I always use round grips and install them with the logo facing down. So, I guess I could never miss align a grip. Right? Or is there something else I need to know. Thanks

    Murv

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  • 7:58AM - Aug 4, 2008RE: hybyrd vs. long iron

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    I have to agree with the bad shots with hybrids….(unless, the hybrid I have is a really *****y one)

    I was comparing my 3 hybrid shots with my 4 iron shots, bad shots with the hybrid really stray further away than bad shots with the 4, and the 4 is only a little bit shorter distance-wise (I think because I sometimes get a more balloon type shot with the 3 hybrid that the distance suffers…and the 4 is almost always more piercing than the hybrid)

    miss hits with the 4 are almost always playable (they may be short, but still playable) while with hybrids I think 50% of the bad shots, slice or hook too much!

    That’s why for now, I’m sticking with my 4 iron until I find a better hybrid or i finally decide to get a 7 wood :-)

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  • 6:10AM - Aug 4, 2008RE: hybyrd vs. long iron

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    Thanks for that insight, I will do that.

    I do have the ‘straight’ version of my hybrid, Snake Eyes Quick Strike Tour, though but it remains to be seen how hooky it might still be, I did have the ordinary QS initially and that was a serious hook machine.

    What i really mean with the Hybrids, is because they are so much easier to hit, a bad shot will get much more airtime, and therefore further offline, I swear i have hit shots much further left and right than i could have ever possibly hit with my old 1 or 2 irons , which would tend to go to ground much quicker.

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  • 4:18PM - Aug 2, 2008RE: hybyrd vs. long iron

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    jproctor, sonoma9600 is correct on the 18 or 19 degree loft as a replacement hybrid for your 2 iron. I would recommend a 40” club length. You will probably find that it will go a little longer than your 2 iron, but will be much more consistent.

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  • 4:12PM - Aug 2, 2008RE: hybyrd vs. long iron

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    marktheblake, I may be able to help here. Some hybrids have a certain head shape and set up in the playing position looking square when in fact you check the actual face angle at address and the face is closed by 1 or so degrees. With a 2 iron, you mostly know it is square because of its more simple shape, a flat face and you cannot see the back (usually). There is nothing wrong with any of these hybrids; it is simply an individual golfer thing. By the way this applies to drivers, fairway metals and hybrids.

    Try this. If you have or have access to a Golf Club Gauge, simply put the assembled hybrid in it and first set the lie angle 3 degrees flatter (say its 59 degrees spec, make it 56 degrees) so the toe is now up in the air. Now, set the face angle perfectly square in the gauge. This will compensate for the dynamic lie flattening and golfer induced lie flattening that occurs at impact. Next, set the gauge with the club in it on the floor. Step up to the club and put your hands on the grip and generally get into your normal set up position. Look down at the face. Is this the way it looks when you really set up to it on the course? Now, look at the grip. Is it aligned square to the face or is it shut to the face (shut to the face using Ralph’s definition is that the grip is pointed to the right for a right handed golfer).

    If the grip is currently pointed (rotated) to the right (hook setting), you have the choice to rotate it up to square or use my preference and rotate it slightly left of square (slice setting) to compensate for face closing as it comes into impact. The caution here is that if you are going to set the grip alignment at anything other than square, you should probably do all you grips the same way. Tour pros do this all the time. Always check out your driver also as you will be surprised how often the grip alignment is off.

    OK, for all of you that do not have a Golf Club Gauge; get a golfer friend to help you. Set up in the address position. Have the friend stand on the toe side and tell you when the club face is square to the target. Remember, a golfer looking down in the address position always sees a club face as one to two degrees more closed than it actually is. This applies to drivers, fairway metals and hybrids only and not to the irons. Do this test to prove this; look at the face angle in the address position and then lean the same club up against a wall in the toe up position (same as set up position), now, walk around and view the face angle from the toe side, you will now be looking at the actual face angle which should look different than it did from the normal address side. So, this is why we need a friend to help. Now, look at the grip alignment to check it out as I explained above and make any corrections.

    You will be quite surprised when checking this and you will be more surprised how much it can solve a directional control problem. Besides, it is very easy to do and check out the results. I wish I had a penny for every grip the manufacturers and the aftermarket regrippers have put on crooked. Check all your grips!

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  • 1:17PM - Aug 2, 2008RE: hybyrd vs. long iron

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    In most cases, you’ll want to go with an 18-19* actual loft to replace a 2 iron.

    Also, go with the MTF irons. They’re just a touch more classic looking at address IMO…....and they have all the playability of the MCC.

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  • 6:45AM - Aug 2, 2008RE: hybyrd vs. long iron

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    I replaced my 2 iron with a 21 degree Snake Eyes Hybrid. Whilst my 2 iron was 19 deg, the longer shaft and higher ball flight pretty much gets me the same distance.

    I also threw out my 3 iron, i just choke down a little on the Hybrid to compensate.

    For sure the hybrid is easier to hit than the 2 iron, but boy oh boy, when I hook it, it goes way further left than any 2 iron ever did.

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  • 9:25PM - Aug 1, 2008hybyrd vs. long iron

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    Sir:

    I am getting ready to purchase either a set of MTF or MCC heads. Since the amount of golf I get to play is very limited, I am consider replacing the 2 iron w/ a hybrid. When I carred a low handicap…my 2iron was one of my favorite clubs, esp. off the tee. However, w/ my current set, I am only marginally effective w/ it. The reason for my question…I have never hit a hybrid…but hear great things about them.

    I hit my 4Iron 195 yards and my 3 iron about 205 yards. I have a 13degree Tight Lies 3wood that I carry about 240. What loft hybrid would replace my 2 Iron…giving me a yardage of about 220-255 yrds…which was about how far I could hit & roll a 2 Iron.

    thanks for the adivse

    Justin

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